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I just picked this up at GoG's Spring Sale ($29.99 + VAT) based on @Pasanda's praise of the game.  Now I have to download the 68+GB and dip my toes into those waters.

Thought I'd start a game-specific thread in case others also want to discuss this game, or if Pasanda feels compelled to provide non-spoiler advice for getting started and playing.

 


"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde

"I'm not bad; I'm just drawn that way." - Jessica Rabbit

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On 4/1/2021 at 11:10 AM, Elovia said:

I just picked this up at GoG's Spring Sale ($29.99 + VAT) based on @Pasanda's praise of the game.  Now I have to download the 68+GB and dip my toes into those waters.

Thought I'd start a game-specific thread in case others also want to discuss this game, or if Pasanda feels compelled to provide non-spoiler advice for getting started and playing.

 

VAT?


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8 hours ago, Lasraik said:

VAT?

Value Added Tax

When buying goods from within the US, you won't see VAT added to your balance.  It's applied when you buy goods from another country (GoG is based in Poland).  See the link for more info.

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Hi.  I'm Elovia, and I'm a Blaze addict.

Audience:  Hi, Elovia!

I love the stuff.  Especially on blast trip wires.  But blast trip wires use a lot of it.  A lot.  I need to know where to get it in large quantities.  I gotta get my fix.  I need my Blaze. 

Scrappers?  No problem.  One blast wire takes 'em down.  Oh sure, I could take them out the old fashioned way with precision placed, tear-enhanced arrows, but why risk it, ya know?  Too slow.

Shell-walkers?  One blast wire disarms them and removes their defenses.  Like shooting ducks in a barrel ... or is that fish?  Anyway ... they don't provide any of that sweet, sweet Blaze.

Daddy needs to grind out a full stack or two of Blaze canisters. 

 

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"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde

"I'm not bad; I'm just drawn that way." - Jessica Rabbit

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OK ... so I found a good place to stock up on Blaze for a reasonably small investment in time and arrow crafting materials.  I'm a frikkin' Grazer killing machine!  Or is that a Grazer machine killer?  /Bah!

I'm slowly getting comfortable confronting bigger, more aggressive, and more powerful machines.  I saw and bravely ran away from my first Thunderjaw, muttering, "please don't see me, please don't see me" as I sneaked past.

Wasn't paying attention one time as I was sneaking past a herd of Broadheads or Lancehorns (probably the latter), and got jumped by a Sawtooth.  I wildly flailed my spear, adrenaline-fueled dodge-rolling every chance I could, and by a stroke of luck was able to bring that agile machine down before my remaining sliver of health ran out.  /whew!  No rematch, please.

So yeah ... enjoyable game so far.  Hard to claim with any authority on how far along I am with it.  I've reached the Carja side of the DMZ valley between Nora and Carja territories, but I keep backing up and exploring previous areas that I seemingly passed over (or quickly passed through).  I've cleared four or five corruption zones, and an equal number of bandit camps.  Precisely placed head shots on bandits are a just a bit too satisfying ... almost as much as watching blast wire traps take down machines.  The game's animators did an excellent job overall, IMHO.

And for the record, Stalkers just plain outright suck.  Maybe I just haven't figured out the best way to see them so that I can then kill them.  Their stealth and one-shot kill ability is ... no words.   I've read similar hatred for the avian machines, Glinthawks and Stormbirds; I've seen these from a distance, but have yet to "encounter" them up close and personal.

 

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"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde

"I'm not bad; I'm just drawn that way." - Jessica Rabbit

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LOL. sorry for being out of touch. Been away etc.

IIRC, the stuff like blaze, that you need most develops as you and your arsenal do likewise, but yeah, blaze is always in demand. But i think most things have it.

I'd take a half hour out and just farm blaze whenever needed. And yeah, grazers/longhorns are easiest, and they usually graze near the long hidey grass.. Just whistle them across to you hiding in the long grass and you can get a whole herd done in 5 mins. Using that from stealth one-shot is easiest. Later on, you'll get a few spear upgrades that let you one-shot fairly high ranking mobs from stealth too. I think you can 1-shot or get close to 1-shotting Sawteeth/Sawtooths too. There's a corrupt thunder jaw that just needs running away from.

Glinthawks were doable, but just hard to track to shoot at. Especially when there are several in the air. Stormbirds are horrible. Thing to do is to get familiar with their damage type and use resist potions. Make a big difference in survivability. I think Glinthawks are cold damage.

Stalkers are similarly horrible. You get familiar with where they hang out, and the lit-traps they leave to give you away. I think i just got an eye for them and their shimmer.  I don't recall seeing my first one until i did a quest to track down some dude by some big rock, who it turned out did the dirty on his mates. But that was waaay through the game. Have you gone that far?

Sounds like you've made a lot of progress. I'm a little envious that you have it all to go through anew. 

Don't miss out on any of the quests. Do everything, and do the things that take you furthest last. You don't really out-level much, perhaps a little. But i never farmed any xp at all.

 

Really glad you're enjoying. It's always risky to recommend stuff to others.

 

 

 

 

 


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I probably have maybe less than a third of the map exposed.

And I ran into the same Stalker you did, same quest, too, but I stumbled onto it while still fairly lowish level.  In that encounter, I met two new machines in short order: my first encounter with a Longleg, and then the Stalker ... not to mention random Scrappers showing up during combat with the Longleg (where I was the chicken running around).  Good thing I had some help from the Quest-giving NPCs.  Anyway, to clear the Stalker, I just started laying a lot of random wire traps hither and yon.  Eventually the stalker crossed one, and ... bingo! there it is ...  but I was certainly uncomfortable exposing myself to a potential single shot death just to lure it out into the traps.  I like playing cat and mouse, just not playing as the mouse.  It's an interesting machine mechanic, for sure.

I found a bunker cave with some ancient tech armor locked away in a visible but inaccessible area.  I need to find some power cells to access it.  I have found one.  I can look online for spoilers, but that might take away some of the fun of exploring.

I also cleared my first cauldron (Sigma), so I can now override Sawtooths and other small machines.  In a related story, I rescued a couple of dudes "treed" by a pair of Sawtooths in an ancient building ruin.  I overrode one of them, and it promptly attacked the other, and then, after the first went down, I launched a fire arrow into the downed one's exposed abdominal blaze stash (normally a difficult target to hit) thus exploding and almost killing the victorious Sawtooth (by that time, it was no longer overidden).  A few more deftly placed arrows and that was the end of that.  I like how there are multiple paths to solving these types of problems.

Speaking of overriding, I'm not sure there is much value in using selected machines (e.g., Striders, Broadheads, etc.) as transportation.  The process and mechanics of riding seem cumbersome, and it is difficult to keep situational awareness because when you turn the camera to look around, the machine steers in the direction the camera points.  I have tons of materials (my inventory slots are bursting with them), and creating travel packs is easy enough that traveling to distant campfires seems better and faster than trying to steer a mechanical ... ahem ... steer to wherever it is you want to go.

In the same ruined city area as the two "treed" dudes, I also accessed my first Longneck, which was quite the thrill of a climb.  Again, I think the game's animators did a wonderful job overall.

Given the graphics, I was afraid my old potato of a computer would choke, but I have (almost) everything turned up to the max graphical settings and it does fine.  The fans on the video card and CPU run louder than normal, but they seem to be taking care of business as they should.  Kind of makes sense, I guess.  The game came out for Playstation about 5 years after I built my computer, and that was over ten years ago.

 

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"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde

"I'm not bad; I'm just drawn that way." - Jessica Rabbit

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Do you have the Frozen Wilds expansion? That adds a big part of the map to the NE passage. Not huge - i'd guess around 20%, but it's worth it. Plus it gives you a chance to use that armour you found, which isn't really available until near the end of the main game, and you're not permitted to wear for the main end-game play either. No point in going there earlier, as the first things you encounter are really tough at high level.

Talking of that ancient tech armour. Reading around it might lead you to believe it's practically invulnerable. Thankfully that's not true. But it does effectively add another health bar, which recharges fairly rapidly out of combat (you can kite-recharge, if not hit for 3-5 seconds). There is another suit, which seems uber, from a leader in the Frozen Wilds, but i didn't buy it or test it. I had to look up the location of the last power cell to get the armour, as i'd been everywhere, but not found it. Turns out i'd almost tripped over it and missed it, so I didn't feel too bad about searching the web.

I would not have liked to find that stalker on a low level.

There are several aspects of the game that i experienced, but never really pursued, due mostly to my play style. I preferred killing mobs myself, to using override - tired it half a dozen times, and it was fun, but that was it. I preferred running around instead of riding around, as i discovered more things, and preferred the pace. although i did use the campfire port a lot toward the end. Some things you have to override to progress the game, of course. such as the wonderful Longnecks. Agree, the animation and audio was excellent throughout, but no more so than with the Longnecks. Thankfully, there are others. Overriding them opens up the map of that area. I think that's the main point of them.

I never really used the teardown arrows. They do hardly any damage, and i was never desperate enough to gather the materials that dropped off, rather than just killing them ASAP.

If an when you do some of the trials, it teaches you to stun and farm things like blaze from the underbelly of some of the larger machines (the ones that look like 2 legged dinosaurs...). I didn't really buy into the trials either, as they didn't seem to move either me or the game forward. although the main hunting lodge chain of trials could have been interesting.

Good to hear it worked well on your abacus-GTX.

 

 

 

 


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